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[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 22, 2022 11:22:59 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] mattsixteen24 [op] 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 22, 2022 13:15:31 ago (+0/-0)

Why would a Catholic be in union with apostate agent of satan who destroys the Catholic faith? Whose counterfeit church doesn't teach or practice Catholicism but a new religion, Vatican II religion. A masonic church of man.

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[ - ] mattsixteen24 [op] 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 22, 2022 22:36:01 ago (+0/-0)

Did you respond to the wrong post and who are you quoting? I'm not understanding your response.

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[ - ] mattsixteen24 [op] 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 24, 2022 07:58:29 ago (+0/-0)

Dude, you are promoting an ecumenical "Bible" and you link to novus ordo heretics like Jimmy Aiken. I don't have time for your links. There's nothing Catholic about it. It's modernist heresy.

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[ - ] mattsixteen24 [op] 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 24, 2022 20:47:53 ago (+0/-0)*

Common man. Seriously, your user name has the name of a protestant sect in it and you're trying to tell me I'm outside the Church? The VII church tells their members to worship with protestants. The VII church tells their members not to try and convert the "orthodox" and especially the jews. The VII popes says the jews still have a covenant with God! They say Luther was right about justification. They encourage their members to worship with other religions! All VII "priests" and "bishops" obey Francis. They are all modernists. They don't have the Catholic faith. It's a counterfeit church of apostasy. Think about it, would there be this much confusion about the Catholic Church and the faith if there was a true valid Pope? Of course there are splinter groups because there is a loss of authority. That's not just true for traditional Catholic groups but much more true for the Novus Ordo. Almost all traditional Catholic groups can agree on the Catholic truths, but the Novus Ordo? No way. It's full of heretics and modernist double talk lies. The novus ordo priests and bishops's validity is doubtful since they changed the rites of ordination and consecration. They changed everything. Confirmation is doubtful.

The facts remain that a heretic can't be Pope. The doctors of the Church have spoken on this. Even the novus ordo code of Canon law states that a manifest heretic is ipso facto excommunicated. The Church cannot substantially change its teachings and the discipline of the Church is part of the teaching Church. The Ordinary Magisterium cannot teach heresy. The Holy Spirit will not allow a heretical Pope. That would mean the gates of hell have prevailed. The only logical conclusion is that the VII "popes" are papal usurpers starting with John XXIII (Roncali) who took his name from an anti-pope, go figure. These antipope heretics all have the same religion, which is modernism. They hate Catholicism. They are not Catholic.

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[ - ] mattsixteen24 [op] -1 points 3.3 yearsJan 25, 2022 13:07:10 ago (+0/-1)*

Your user name is a poor choice. Especially when trying to be representative of the Catholic faith and argue for Catholicism.

Working with protestants against common foe? Which foe are you talking about? We are talking about the Roman Catholic faith and the Church. The RC Church is the foe of the protestants.

Pointing a random person on the internet who doesn't agree with you to a youtube channel with dozens of videos is not very tactful. For one, it's vague. It's like throwing a dozen books and someone and saying, "here read this." It's better to address specifics and gain some level of trust by understanding on one point first. If you have a particular video that addresses one of the arguments, then send that one. Preferably short or just post the time range where he addresses the argument. I'm not going to weed through dozens of videos from this guy. Time is precious.

Pope Liberius never compromised with the Arians. I use to believe that nonsense too because the R&R crowd continues to propagate that lie as well as many others (mostly Michael Davies propaganda). The papacy was never "compromised". The Papacy cannot be compromised. [18] And "I say to thee, That" thou art Peter; and" upon this" Rock will I "build my Church, and the " gates of hell shal not prevail against it"[Matthew 16:18]. The Holy Spirit protects the Papacy from heresy. There has never been a heretical Pope in the history of the Church because it's no possible because the Holy Spirit will not allow it. Pope Liberius never committed heresy. He never compromised with the Arians. This is a lie based off forged documents. There is no solid evidence for this claim. Pre-VII Denzinger versions don't contain these claims because the documents claiming Pope Liberius faltered were considered inauthentic and forgeries. Same with the claim that Pope Liberius excommunicated Bishop St. Athanasius. To the contrary, pre-Vatican II Popes spoke highly of Pope Liberius who refused to compromise with the Arian heretics.

“…previously the Arians falsely accused Liberius, also Our predecessor, to the Emperor Constantine, because Liberius refused to condemn St. Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, and refused to support their heresy” (Pius IX, Encyclical Quartus Supra, n. 16).

Catholic Encyclopedia of 1917, see Forged Letters section: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09217a.htm

Francis is not a private heretic. He is a full blown manifest heretic and he knows what's Catholic dogma and what's not. He's not stupid. Same goes for all the VII antipopes. They know exactly what they are doing. Even Ratzinger admits VII's contradictions.

The true RC Church cannot teach heresy which is what the VII counterfeit church is doing and has done for the past 60 years. Some definitions on the Ordinary Magisterium:

"2. Ordinary Magisterium: this second form of Church teaching is “continually exercised by the Church especially in her universal practices connected with faith and morals, in the unanimous consent of the Fathers and theologians, in the decisions of the Roman Congregations concerning faith and morals, in the common sense of the Faithful, and various historical documents, in which the faith is declared.” (Definition from “A Catholic Dictionary”, 1951)

So, according to this definition, the Ordinary Magisterium (also referred to as the Universal Ordinary Magisterium) is Church teaching that is continuous and unanimously consented to throughout the Church.

"A Commentary on Canon Law" (Augustine, 1918, Canon 1323, pg 327) states: "The universal and ordinary magisterium consists of the entire episcopate, according to the constitution and order defined by Christ, i.e., all the bishops of the universal Church, dependently on the Roman Pontiff". It also states, "What the universal and approved practice and discipline proposes as connected with faith and morals must be believed. And what the Holy Fathers and the theologians hold unanimously as a matter of faith and morals, is also de fide."

The Ordinary Magisterium is where the majority of Catholic beliefs are taught and learned; through unanimous teaching by preaching, by any written means, the approval of catechisms, the approval of textbooks for use in seminaries, etc"

http://baptismofdesire.com/

The entire VII church has been teaching heresy continuously and unanimously for decades.


Now let's look at some of VII's heresies:

"(a) The civil right to religious liberty.

"The Council further declares that the right to religious freedom has its foundation in the very dignity of the human person... This right to religious freedom is to be recognized in the constitutional law whereby society is governed. Thus it is to become a civil right."2 (Declaration on Religious Liberty Dignitatis Humanae, paragraph 2)

Heretical.

(b) Revelation was completed at the Crucifixion.

Heretical.

(f) The Jews are not presented in Scripture as rejected or accursed.

Heretical.

(k) Theological meetings and discussions on an equal footing between Catholics and non-Catholics are commendable.

Heretical.

(m) The Church must dialogue with atheists to establish order in the world.

Heretical.

(n) The Church needs the help of non-believers.

Heretical.

o) Catholic missionaries should co-operate with heretical "missionaries".

Heretical."

https://holyromancatholicchurch.org/heresies.html


But the VII council was pastoral they say? Paul VI in 1970 calls Vatican II “Authoritative Compendium of Doctrine” https://novusordowatch.org/2021/07/paul6-vatican2-authoritative-compendium-of-doctrine/


"confusion if the pope is valid". You misquoted and misunderstood me. I said there was confusion among the Catholic faith and Church. Hence the sede position. Not confusion on the validity of a so called Pope.

Yes, I use to argue that the church is always in crisis as to justify the apostasy of Rome. It's a faulty generalization. There is nothing comparable to the Apostasy of Rome. It's on a whole different level. We are talkin about a counterfeit church that everyone believes is the RC Church lead and run by the enemies of Christ that are leading souls to hell. Only remnants remain of the true RC Church who holds to the true Catholic faith. Very few valid Catholic priests left. "Even if Catholics faithful to Tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the ones who are the true Church of Christ," St. Athanasius. What about the Great Western Schism (Avignon Papacy) or the Protestant Revolution? As far as Norman invasion, what liturgical practices changed as I'm ignorant on this particular topic.

Yes, there are many novus ordo catholics who are trying to be holy. You could say the same about protestants, muslims, jews, etc. It doesn't change the facts that they are mislead. However, because of the widespread confusion and nature of this deception, I don't believe God in his mercy would send a novus ordo faithful to Catholicism to hell just because they had not determined that the vii sect is not the church but a counterfeit church masquerading as if it were the true RC Church. It's a very great deception. What better way than to gradually infiltrate the church and lead souls to hell based on their obedience to an apostate hierarchy and papal usurpers pretending to be the Church. They have infiltrated everything and "excommunicated" anyone who holds to the Catholic faith in opposition to them. Look at it this way, Francis the so called vicar of Christ says that atheist don't go to hell. He told a young boy this. So if they aren't going to hell, why so worried about belonging to his church? You believe he is the Vicar of Christ correct?

"Now you know well that the most deadly foes of the Catholic religion have always waged a fierce war, but without success, against this Chair [of St. Peter]; they are by no means ignorant of the fact that religion itself can never totter and fall while this Chair remains intact, the Chair which rests on the rock which the proud gates of hell cannot overthrow and in which there is the whole and perfect solidity of the Christian religion." (Pope Pius IX, Encyclical Inter Multiplices, n. 7;)

"To satisfy this pastoral duty, our predecessors always gave tireless attention that the saving doctrine of Christ be spread among all the peoples of the earth, and with equal care they watched that, wherever it was received, it was preserved sound and pure. Therefore, the bishops of the whole world, now individually, now gathered in Synods, following a long custom of the churches and the formula of the ancient rule, referred to this Holy See those dangers particularly which emerged in the affairs of faith, that there especially the damages to faith might be repaired where faith cannot experience a failure. The Roman Pontiffs, moreover, according as the condition of the times and affairs advised, sometimes by calling ecumenical Councils or by examining the opinion of the Church spread throughout the world; sometimes by particular synods, sometimes by employing other helps which divine Providence supplied, have defined that those matters must be held which with God’s help they have recognized as in agreement with Sacred Scripture and apostolic tradition. For, the Holy Spirit was not promised to the successors of Peter that by His revelation they might disclose new doctrine, but that by His help they might guard sacredly the revelation transmitted through the apostles and the deposit of faith, and might faithfully set it forth. Indeed, all the venerable fathers have embraced their apostolic doctrine, and the holy orthodox Doctors have venerated and followed it, knowing full well that the See of St. Peter always remains unimpaired by any error, according to the divine promise of our Lord the Savior made to the chief of His disciples: “I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and thou, being once converted, confirm thy brethren” [Luke 22:32]. (Vatican Council, Dogmatic Constitution Pastor Aeternus, n. 4; Denz. 1836; underlining added.)


"Wherefore, let the faithful also be on their guard against the overrated independence of private judgment and that false autonomy of human reason. For it is quite foreign to everyone bearing the name of a Christian to trust his own mental powers with such pride as to agree only with those things which he can examine from their inner nature, and to imagine that the Church, sent by God to teach and guide all nations, is not conversant with present affairs and circumstances; or even that they must obey only in those matters which she has decreed by solemn definition as though her other decisions might be presumed to be false or putting forward insufficient motive for truth and honesty. Quite to the contrary, a characteristic of all true followers of Christ, lettered or unlettered, is to suffer themselves to be guided and led in all things that touch upon faith or morals by the Holy Church of God through its Supreme Pastor the Roman Pontiff, who is himself guided by Jesus Christ Our Lord." (Pope Pius XI, Casti Connubii, #104)


"They are the ones who have broken away from it in the present crisis. No one, ever, will prevail against your Faith, beloved Brothers. And we believe that God will give us our churches back some day. 'Thus, the more violently they try to occupy the places of worship, the more they separate themselves from the Church. They claim that they represent the Church; but in reality, they are the ones who are expelling themselves from it and going astray. Even if Catholics faithful to Tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the ones who are the true Church of Jesus Christ.'" (Letter of St. Athanasius to his Flock)


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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 21, 2022 23:36:03 ago (+0/-0)

I like this guy. Of course he lumps Hitler in with the problems of the 20th cent. But it was a good sermon.