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Workplace has given us 10 days to file exemptions from the clot-shot.

submitted by totes_magotes to whatever 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 11:00:52 ago (+72/-1)     (whatever)

Because of you glorious bastards combined with religious knowledge and experience, I have the resources I need. I will also be hiring a lawyer since work has explicitly stated that exemption filing will be put before a panel of lawyers. As I was raised fundamental Baptist, this is a cakewalk.

Once I finish, I'll post my resources and whatnot so you can use it as a template.


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[ - ] system 25 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 11:48:56 ago (+27/-2)

The fact that we're accepting this as a nation tells me it's over. There is no hope.

[ - ] Jiggggg 12 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 12:49:06 ago (+13/-1)

I've been feeling very blackpilled myself lately. I only have a handful of people in my life who haven't caved to the pressure. It is incredibly disheartening to watch people completely abandon their convictions when confronted.

[ - ] 0rion 10 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 13:14:33 ago (+10/-0)

Such is the result of an atheistic, materialistic society.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 18:09:51 ago (+2/-0)

You are not wrong.

[ - ] Xantha 5 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 17:46:34 ago (+5/-0)

Don't be blackpilled, think of it a different way. Five years ago, you didn't know who was really worth a shit and who wasn't if it came down to it--- we'd all be lost to some degree because we wouldnt know. But now you're finding out which people are actually worth a damn, those are the ones that will go the distance if shit goes sideways. Build relationships with those people, because they'll have your back if you go the distance too. We're separating the seeds from the chaff now, the chumps from the champs.

Life isn't a tiktok video, a starbucks latte, a bunch of hyper-materialistic trash, or any of this other useless shit these people cram their faces with every day. Everything they're doing is unsustainable, it's not going to last-- and most of them will be crushed when the house of cards finally comes tumbling down.

If you gave me the power to shut of the power/electric/utilities nationwide today, I'd shut it all off no questions asked. Yeah a lot of people would probably die, but it'd be a lot less people dying than from the shit we're sprinting towards as a civilization finally peaks over the horizon. Don't worry about what you're 'losing' because when you really dissect it all--- a lot of it really isn't worth a shit anyway.

Just knuckle your shit down and keep going. Yeah there's not a lot of us, but there's still enough to be 'us'.

[ - ] dassar 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 21:09:35 ago (+1/-0)

Yes i concur. Lockdowns, social distancing, Govt 'mandates' , the new normal, all the other superfluous trash media talking points etc, has only served me to realise how fleeting ones life really is and the things I take for granted .
if only one thing has come out of it, it is to remind me about what is really important to myself.
My family and those that share the same or similar worldviews, as well as the small day to day things, how i conduct myself in personal relationships, holding to my principles (whether they are right or wrong isn't necessarily the end point but only that they are important to me, eating well (good, clean wholesome home cooked foods) and not allowing myself to be exposed or willingly partake in the multitude of 'crap commercialism/ bread and circus bull shittery.
I have being given the impetus to rid myself of much of the bull-shittery of 'modern life' ...

[ - ] Jiggggg 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 7, 2021 07:41:39 ago (+0/-0)

Thank you. I have indeed found a couple of people who I honestly could live with outside of society and I think we'd make it.

[ - ] Cantaloupe 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 6, 2021 02:49:44 ago (+1/-0)

That's how the right side of the bell-curve is.

[ - ] JudyStroyer 11 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 11:53:44 ago (+12/-1)

Completely agree.

[ - ] 0rion 8 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 12:35:45 ago (+10/-2)

100%. If people didn't fight back after being locked down and forced to submit to a medical experiment, they will never rise up. Look at how quickly things fizzled out in Australia...so much for "the resistance".

Mark of the beast is here. Do what you can to prepare, those of us who are able to ride it out will play a part in rebuilding society. Let's try not to make the same mistakes next time through.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 5 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 17:08:08 ago (+5/-0)

Look at how quickly things fizzled out in Australia...so much for "the resistance".

I could be wrong, but to me it just looks like things are heating up in Australia.

[ - ] Brewpot 3 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 17:35:22 ago (+4/-1)

It's not the mark of the beast

[ - ] dulcima 3 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 19:40:14 ago (+3/-0)

We are still protesting down here. The Melbourne media says it has fizzled out. Doesn't mean it is true.

[ - ] fylfot 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 6, 2021 12:10:07 ago (+1/-0)

Do you know anywhere I can find reports of the protests?

[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 21:11:49 ago (+2/-0)

Mark of the beast
rebuilding society.

I think you have to pick one. If you believe in the first, there isn't going to be any rebuilding society.

[ - ] deleted 3 points 2.6 yearsOct 6, 2021 00:36:56 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] FacelessOne 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 6, 2021 01:29:35 ago (+1/-0)

Agreed. They are hubs that promote moneychangers and merchants. The worst dregs of any society.

[ - ] canbot 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 22:56:40 ago (+1/-0)

They dosed them with some extra lithium in thier water and a little extra aluminum in the air. Easy peasy.

[ - ] YamaMaya 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 6, 2021 07:01:29 ago (+1/-0)

Aluminum is in the vaccines

[ - ] yesiknow 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 6, 2021 01:39:58 ago (+1/-0)

Are you going to ride it out for 75 years through the deliberately caused food shortages. They usually cause massive deaths from those.

Just remember, if you have to shoot the looters coming for yours, you need to have a disposal area mapped out. unregistered weapons are your friend. You're the one that needs a cel phone jammer, not them. They're your prey, you aren't theirs

[ - ] mattsixteen24 3 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 17:46:30 ago (+3/-0)

No, the problem is that because there is so much censorship we don't know the true number of people who are actually resisting all this insanity. I know there are a good number of professionals in the medical community who are against all of this.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 14:20:46 ago (+3/-1)

This is a demoralizing statement. It does not promote better outcomes. And its ridiculously categorical. We’re all frustrated and depressed. I get that. This does not help.

[ - ] AryanPrime 3 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 15:03:03 ago (+4/-1)

system is a crypto kike though, that is exactly what he is here to do, demoralize

haven't you seen the proofs of him getting caught with the same IP address as AOU from poal? self admitted israeli genetic kike

[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 18:08:49 ago (+2/-0)

I have no reason to believe that. I just its preferable to spread this infectious surrender mentality. Jews wage a mental war. The key is to resist it mentally. Its not in our interest to catastrophize. Although its tempting to do so.

[ - ] Cantaloupe 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 6, 2021 02:52:10 ago (+1/-0)

Not at all, some may be

[ - ] AryanPrime 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 15:01:56 ago (+3/-1)

LMFAO

Known kike usurper pretends to think "it's over" when it only took 3% of the population to win the American Revolution


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....system everyone knows you are an AOU clone, you fool no one JIDF...take your kike blackpills and fuck off back to palestine while you still can enjoy the scenery there before we take that from you as well

Death to all amalekites.

[ - ] FellowWhite 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 18:57:54 ago (+2/-0)

Known kike usurper pretends to think "it's over" when it only took 3% of the population to win the American Revolution

We haven't even seen three people total do any real form of resistance, let alone an entire three percent. The British also weren't fighting on their home territory, had France to deal with, and didn't massively outgun us.

[ - ] dulcima 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 19:40:39 ago (+2/-0)

This crap isn't confined to America.

[ - ] JurassicFart -1 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 17:29:18 ago (+1/-2)

The same thing you did with this site, by letting the jews and shills take over the front page. Why are you surprised?

[ - ] system 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 18:00:48 ago (+2/-0)

What is wrong with the front page? What do you want censored?

[ - ] Cynabuns 13 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 11:08:40 ago (+13/-0)

Best of luck, totes, screw them hard.

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 7 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 12:04:09 ago (+7/-0)

It's a righteous war. I trust in that.

[ - ] rage 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 12:01:14 ago (+2/-0)

If I remember correctly, this guy works for Microsoft.

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 7 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 12:04:46 ago (+7/-0)

No, but I do work in software development and get paid good money to do things including work on software that saves lives in a measurable way every day.

[ - ] Barack_Obama 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 16:38:15 ago (+2/-1)

Can you guarantee you're saving white lives?


Its ok to walk away.

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 21:28:59 ago (+1/-0)

I have to take CJIS training on a regular basis. If I say too much more, I have a real chance of doxxing myself.

[ - ] BoraxTheFungarian 10 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 12:27:02 ago (+12/-2)

Quite honetly, I have prayed in secret for many people to be healed and it usually works. It is the power of the faithful to bring forth the works of Jesus in their own lives. Getting the vaccine is a display of fearfulness and supplication toward an authority which is not God.

Aside from this, children are to be protected in the utmost. If anyone were to lead them astray they should be drowned in the ocean even at the cost of grinding grain into flour. This is according to Christ. He was all about making things better and he said it would be better to starve and become arbiters of drowning than to suffer a single instance of a child being lead astray. That’s in the Bible, spoken by the messiah.

The time has come to discover and live out the true purpose of Christ in our own lives. I’m excited personally.

[ - ] Baneofretail 4 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 18:23:06 ago (+4/-0)

Just claim a religious exemption. Equal Opportunity law would then trump and you open a case for suing them if terminated.

There's a whole butt ton of case law at the Supreme Court level regarding it so it wouldn't have to be litigated again and there's clear jurisprudence around the matter.

For those that weren't raised as religious or don't have a set religious authority, you're not required to show one, just express your convictions.

[ - ] Flabbygasted 5 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 11:13:36 ago (+5/-0)

Is there a freedom exemption, or is it all just religious?

[ - ] ilikeskittles 11 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 11:16:55 ago (+11/-0)

No freedom. We live on a Prison Planet.

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 5 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 11:59:44 ago (+5/-0)

They're trying to claim you can only have medical or religious exemptions with religious being a religious or spiritual exemption while not stating that it can be a deeply held moral/ethical belief (such as veganism). I'll include info on that when I post when I'm putting together. It should be noted that an actual religious belief is stronger than a moral one, legally.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 14:23:32 ago (+2/-0)

Some statutes seem to recognize philosophical beliefs or issues of conscience as under the umbrella of religious objection.

[ - ] Her0n 4 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 14:35:22 ago (+4/-0)

I waited until my work demanded I take it because “our customers are requiring it!” I let them fire me, (they claimed insubordination reasons) then I went freelance working in the same area with the same customers who “require vaccines”. I walk in with no mask, no vaccination, and they are happy I’m there. Turns out CEOs and even small business owners would rather lie and keep making money than wait and listen to the lawman. Funny thing is most of these machines are making medical equipment. They could be making covid tests for all I know and I’m unvaxxed and unmasked working on them.

The dollar reigns supreme with businesses.

Something I don’t understand in today’s world is why anyone dealing with software/coding has to work in an office.

[ - ] cyclops1771 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 14:38:13 ago (+1/-0)

This is my likely path, her0n.

[ - ] Her0n 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 14:45:20 ago (+2/-0)

I increased my income 550% and reduced my hours from 50-60/wk to 20/wk.

That percentage is real because I was paid 3.5% of what my company charges.

[ - ] cyclops1771 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 15:14:21 ago (+1/-0)

I get charged out at roughly 28% of my value, 35% if you include benefits. I wouldn't see as high an increase as that, but it would be between 200-300%. Plus, if I insisted on remote only, I could high tier rate one project while low tier rate another (architect/lead level vs functional level) without really stretching myself.

[ - ] Her0n 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 18:23:27 ago (+2/-0)

Asking my customers what they pay for me to be there was the best question I ever asked.

Sounds like you’re ready in case you need to make the jump. May I suggest you grow a victory garden to help you save a ton of money?

[ - ] voatisajewishheaven 3 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 22:29:19 ago (+3/-0)

I planned on keeping it simple, and say:

"It is my sincerely held religious belief that I will go to hell if I take any of the vaccines as they all used or were tested against fetal cell line from unborn souls"

Anything beyond that I would refuse to answer. A religious exemption is not something that's requested, it's something you declare. An employer asking further questions about your religion and beliefs is way out of line.

[ - ] mememeyou 4 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 14:19:48 ago (+4/-0)

kill em dead Goat- feel free to take any of this copypasta - excerpts have been used to stump the Jew lawyers successfully -
My personal religious beliefs prohibit the injection of foreign substances into my body. The Bible teaches that we shall keep the blood pure, and keep the seed from being mixed. When genetic materials from bacteria, viruses, yeast, animals, birds, and other humans are injected during vaccination, the blood is contaminated, and genetic changes occur. God warned against this. To do so would violate the teachings of the Bible. My objection to this vaccination is based on my deeply held religious beliefs.

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccinations, while not using morally compromised cell lines in the design, development, or production of the vaccine, utilized a confirmatory test employing the morally compromised HEK-293 cell line in order to test the efficacy of both vaccines. The HEK-293 cell line is derived from human embryonic kidney cells harvested from an aborted fetus. Thus, both vaccines are connected to the initial evil of abortion by utilizing fetal tissue in the testing process, and to take either vaccine would support the belief that abortion is acceptable, a belief that strongly contradicts my deeply held religious convictions.

The AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccination are even more morally compromised. The HEK-293 cell line was used in the design, development, and production stages of the AstraZeneca vaccine, as well as for confirmatory testing. The PER.C6 cell line, which was developed using retinal cells from an 18-week-old aborted fetus, was used in the design, development, and production stages of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, as well as for confirmatory testing.

My personal religious beliefs hold abortion to be against the will of God. “You shall not murder”, Scripture tells us in Exodus 20:13 (NIV).
I Corinthians 6:19 tells us that our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit. Vaccines contain neurotoxins, hazardous substances, attenuated viruses, animal parts, foreign DNA, albumin from human blood, carcinogens, and chemical wastes that are proven harmful to the body. Injection of these substances violates the word of God, and subsequently my religious beliefs.
Psalm 91
King James Version
91 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

the mark of the beast (666) is most likely not a physical or visible mark (Rev. 13:16). “buy or sell” things (Rev. 13:17) Matthew 15:13. He answered, "Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted. Mark 2:17 When Jesus heard this, he said to them, "Those who are well have no need of a physician. First Letter of Paul to the Corinthians 3:16-17. 16 Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you? 17 If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy that person. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple. First Corinthians 6:19-20. 19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God, and that you are not your own? 20 For you were bought with a price; therefore glorify God in your body

[ - ] voatisajewishheaven 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 22:34:16 ago (+2/-0)

Even if you are barely spiritual, it's easily conceivable that if you keep the cells of an unborn "alive", it gets subverted by the devil and becomes a demonic entity.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 17:12:05 ago (+2/-1)

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[ - ] FellowWhite 3 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 19:09:47 ago (+3/-0)

It's probably not too hard of an argument to make if all previous ones were before becoming a legal adult as a minor wouldn't have any choice in the matter if one of the parents wants it done.

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 21:35:10 ago (+0/-0)

They ask this in the questionnaire and then ask "what changed?" I have a legit answer for that and all of it can be verified through official records and transcripts.

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 21:34:12 ago (+1/-0)

I will be including some of that, absolutely. Thanks. I do need to be careful on how hard I bash on vaccinations in general because they're looking specifically for anti-vax stances given how they've worded their exemption questions. If I back myself into that corner and it turns out that I absolutely have to have any kind of vaccine like tetanus or some other medical treatment that IS safe and religiously fine, I've screwed myself. It's a fine line to walk. I've spent most of the day putting things together.

[ - ] deleted 4 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 11:54:00 ago (+4/-0)

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[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 12:03:54 ago (+2/-0)

Fundamental baptist (aka independent baptist) are a special breed that take the Bible entirely as written with the belief that the written text is infallible. As such, there are a lot of mental gymnastics. Between that and training to see through political bullshit, it is merely a matter of pulling supporting documentation from biblical texts, medical texts, texts from the FDA and medical databases themselves and a little bit of knowledge from some Jewish folks. What I'll be doing isn't something the average person can do but requires a LOT of deep religious knowledge and study. Like I said, if there's anything a fundamental baptist can do, it's twist the texts to support any stance (include some insane ones I was raised with like "don't wear shorts around women", no dancing, and so on).

[ - ] Cantaloupe 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 12:24:42 ago (+1/-0)

Is the threshold for the dumb, lower?

It seems being dumb and a fundamental baptist would lower the effort.

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 13:20:04 ago (+0/-0)

Nah, it takes a lot of thinking and parroting to be a fundie. When you get challenged with something you don't know, it eventually raises questions and you have to fall back to the Biblical texts to support your position. That means knowing the texts and whatnot and then extracting them and correlating with other references to support it.

For example, as the Bible gives instructions on how to perform an abortion, using abortion as a stance against vaccines will not work. However, using abortion as a talking about about how it has become pivotal in the degeneration of society is a strong point. And as you are instructed to abstain from even the appearance of evil, you cannot support such things as we commanded to "be fruitful and multiply" (look up "quiverfull" religion for reference on how that is taken to an extreme).

[ - ] oldblo 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 12:27:27 ago (+2/-0)

You dont fight it by continuing to work for and thus support those who perpetuate it.

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 13:11:08 ago (+0/-0)

You fight it by saying "No" and forcing them to provide weekly tests instead of forcing a deadly thing on you.

[ - ] oldblo 8 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 13:42:30 ago (+8/-0)

Half right. Weekly tests is also a degree of capitulation with ultimately endless repercussions. As such not how it is to be fought.

[ - ] Barack_Obama 4 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 16:44:23 ago (+4/-0)

They ask for too much, then they agree to only take a little bit, and we are supposed to leave thinking we got a good deal. They didn't get him to jab, but they did get him to submit to a weekly test, when before it was nothing.

They use this tactic all the time, they will continue to do so. They will ask for DNA and blood sampling test, but they'll be perfectly willing to "settle" on a nose swab.

Its a totally jewish thing. Ask for $100 and they slowly whittle your will down to $5, when you should be giving them nothing at all. OP should walk out and work with people who do not quite literally see him as cattle stock.

[ - ] FellowWhite 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 19:04:43 ago (+2/-0)

Its a totally jewish thing. Ask for $100 and they slowly whittle your will down to $5, when you should be giving them nothing at all.

Just giving them nothing is still a losing tactic as the best result it can give is a draw, you must go on the offensive and not settle until you get the $5.

[ - ] MichaelStewart 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 15:49:00 ago (+1/-0)

Excuse you, it's BI-weekly testing, from what I've heard.

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 21:31:14 ago (+1/-0)

Even if the mandate is bi-weekly, the workplace can require weekly. The only problem is that now that I think everyone is in agreement that COVID actually exists, going out on a regular basis for testing increases your chance of COVID exposure. I've been in a nearly perpetual state of lockdown since this all started. I have no clue how people are in the real world right now other than the few times I've been out. But my neighbor works for the county and they've had no complaints.

[ - ] MichaelStewart 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 23:49:03 ago (+2/-0)*

everyone is in agreement that COVID actually exists

Not I, I am absolutely skeptical of the threat of fake made-up "COVID-19", no different than I'm skeptical of the threat of "climate change".

[ - ] Steelerfish 3 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 19:14:54 ago (+3/-0)

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] -1 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 21:39:21 ago (+0/-1)

None of that works for most religious objections. The objection has to be based on religious principles and a lot of that is a hard thing to sell.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 3 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 13:07:01 ago (+3/-0)

any lawyers anyone hires that claim the mandates are legal are not worth shit to begin with.

[ - ] oldblo 3 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 12:25:11 ago (+3/-0)

I ask that people not lie. Lies perpetuate the situation. Cooperation to one degree or another is the entire reason the situation persists.

[ - ] Cantaloupe 3 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 12:21:43 ago (+3/-0)

When you get what you want, stop negotiating. Give just the limited response giving more opens up more lines of questions.

There is probably a mix of those for an against, not completely adversarial. They may have to justify supporting your position to others.

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 13:23:13 ago (+2/-0)

The exemption form is extremely simple. All I have to do is explain why. Providing and overwhelming number of sources and texts to support that position is easy. Too easy.

[ - ] cyclops1771 5 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 14:35:41 ago (+5/-0)

Why do you have to explain anything?

Are they the religion police? On what authority do they have the right to select or determine whether YOUR personal religious belief is "correct" or "incorrect"? I'd stick with the "This is my personal, sincerely held religious belief." Stick specifically to the words used specifically in the law and/or their HR policies. Just state whatever words like "personally held beliefs" as stated in the company policy AND the law (they can always change policy.)

Also, if you get called into any meeting, even if you are a one=party state, record the meeting with the lawyer board or HR, and let them know you are recording. If anyone on the panel or HR objects, and it is a one-party state, inform them of that fact, and that they are free to leave, but you will be recording this.

Also, whenever anyone asks you a specific question, make them give their full name. "Totes, WHY do you have this belief?" "Can you please state you full name, and then repeat the question?"

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 21:38:04 ago (+2/-0)

I have to prove that there is a reasonable religious objection. HR will review it and likely lawyers. Those lawyers will absolutely have all the major angles covered. For example, if you say "My body is a temple" but you smoke or ever drink, that's blown credibility. Since this is HR, I can be strict like you suggest but if I make too much of a stink about stupid shit, they might decide that the interview and accommodations requests are unreasonable for them. HR is there for the company, not you. Just make sure everything is airtight and it's all good.

[ - ] cyclops1771 3 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 21:42:54 ago (+3/-0)

I just dont see how any lawyer can determine your own personally held religious beliefs are "real" or not. Their only possible goal is to make you provide statements that they can then use in court against you later when you sue them for medical or religious discrimination.

I dont believe there is any version of "reasonable" religious - it IS or it ISN'T.

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 21:57:08 ago (+1/-0)

They can't. All they can do is try to determine if you're lying, if your objections are religiously or spiritually based.

By "reasonable," are the accommodations you are requesting unreasonable or represent and significant burden on the employer? For example, requesting remote work when you work at Micky D's just isn't gonna fly but for an office job, it's more than reasonable.

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 23:07:04 ago (+1/-0)

I had a reply spelling it out but this site sucks donkey balls and wiped it. I'm not typing it up again in it's entirety. There are things they can ask and things they can't ask. You have to know your rights and their limits.

[ - ] cyclops1771 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 22:15:40 ago (+1/-0)

AGain, who are they to determine if you are "lying" about sincerely held beliefs. It's not 20 questions, and they can prove what "sincerely held" means.

Now, the reasonable accomodations art of the Title VII, that makes sense. But there is no reason to have to explain or go into detail on if your beliefs can be judged. They can't.

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 23:07:45 ago (+1/-0)

I've tried three times to reply but this site sucks. They can try to determine if you're lying but they have limits.

[ - ] wyrmblut 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 6, 2021 03:42:47 ago (+2/-1)

dude, you still dont get it. that cuck form is for you to write a noose around your neck

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 6, 2021 19:07:27 ago (+0/-0)

lulz, whatever, retard.

[ - ] Battlefat 3 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 11:16:54 ago (+3/-0)

Take a picture when they kvetch-a-clot

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 12:05:16 ago (+2/-0)

lol, I won't be around people. It'll all be online and forms. But I'll rock what I can for you.

[ - ] Master_Foo 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 17:29:52 ago (+2/-0)

The Jews don't give a fuck about your religious exemptions.

Take a picture of your cock, write "Fuck you! that's why!" on it (the picture not your cock), and then staple it to the "exemption" form (the picture not your cock), then send it to Pam in HR for processing.

You don't comply your way out of tyranny. The very act of applying for exemption is an admission that it is legitimate. If you apply for exemption, you might as well just admit you serve the Jews.

[ - ] Yargiyankooli 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 16:38:07 ago (+2/-0)

Why the fuck are you all participating in vaccine exemptions? Just say no to it all. You are just legitimizing their arguments.

My job also asked for me to send an exemption. I just ignored them

[ - ] Teefinyomouf 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 15:10:02 ago (+2/-0)

Jesus died on the cross and that's a fact. COVID response is the religion, not based in fact, not god's creation, not reality. They have you calling absolute truth a religion while they get away with pushing their make-believe. That's no victory.

[ - ] cyclops1771 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 14:41:25 ago (+2/-0)

[ - ] totes_magotes [op] 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 21:41:17 ago (+1/-0)

Thanks, I got those when those were posted. A lot of those have excellent resources and I'm using them to refine my first, rough draft.

[ - ] TheSimulacra 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 6, 2021 01:42:04 ago (+1/-0)

Can you force them to prove Covid exists?

[ - ] Sleazy 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 22:44:47 ago (+1/-0)

just ask them to define vaccine