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Downvoting now disables if your total downvotes given is more than 2x your total upvotes given

submitted by system to TalkDev 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 13:17:01 ago (+91/-11)     (TalkDev)*

So if you have given out 400 upvotes, you can give out 800 downvotes before it disables. 20 upvotes given? You can downvote a total of 40 times. If you want to reenable downvoting simply give out more upvotes.

This is to prevent serial downvoters. The 2:1 ratio is more than reasonable and would only prevent the most excessive downvoters. Under these rules currently only 2 accounts are effected with a 3rd soon to follow.

I know there will be people who complain about this, people who aren't even effected by it. Feel free to voice your opinion in this thread. But seeing the /all/new downvoted by one person, with no repercussion or incentive to give out some upvotes will forever be a problem without some kind of limit. I still have not implemented a ccp requirement for downvotes, that could change depending on abuse.


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[ - ] AndrewBlazeIt 1 point 3 yearsApr 7, 2021 20:42:36 ago (+2/-1)*

It should be less than that.

EDIT: Hi itsgettingcloser. How's life? Downvoted this yet?

[ - ] AndrewBlazeIt 1 point 3 yearsApr 7, 2021 21:06:37 ago (+2/-1)

Watch - he'll DV this, too.

[ - ] Cynabuns 2 points 3 yearsApr 7, 2021 21:23:24 ago (+2/-0)

I have my eye on your account

[ - ] AndrewBlazeIt 1 point 3 yearsApr 7, 2021 21:56:27 ago (+1/-0)

IDK if that's good or bad

[ - ] Cynabuns 1 point 3 yearsApr 7, 2021 21:57:49 ago (+1/-0)

It was good. Same thing system was doing ;)

[ - ] AndrewBlazeIt 1 point 3 yearsApr 7, 2021 22:01:28 ago (+1/-0)

Tits

[ - ] AndrewBlazeIt 1 point 3 yearsApr 7, 2021 22:05:42 ago (+1/-0)

Ahahah, so apparently he's DV'ed me ~150 times since yesterday.

[ - ] Cynabuns 1 point 3 yearsApr 7, 2021 22:07:40 ago (+1/-0)

I lost track.

[ - ] system [op] 2 points 3 yearsApr 7, 2021 21:54:00 ago (+2/-0)

I have reverted all downvotes from that account. Let me know if it continues.

[ - ] AndrewBlazeIt 2 points 3 yearsApr 7, 2021 21:56:14 ago (+2/-0)

Thank you. I really hate to bitch - I honestly don't give a shit if he's self-upvoting, but apparently I touched a nerve.

[ - ] system [op] 2 points 3 yearsApr 7, 2021 21:58:13 ago (+2/-0)

I've disabled his ability to downvote your comments.

[ - ] AndrewBlazeIt 0 points 3 yearsApr 7, 2021 22:02:28 ago (+0/-0)

So... u be sayin'... he just has to sit there takin' it?

[ - ] system [op] 1 point 3 yearsApr 7, 2021 22:04:40 ago (+1/-0)

Yeah, but you can't downvote him either. Guess you have to be friends now.

[ - ] Nosferatjew 17 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 13:55:52 ago (+18/-1)

On voat 1.0, the upvoat/downvoat ratio was 1:1. This seemed to be more than reasonable. Not a criticism of what you've set up, which I'm sure will work as intended, just pointing it out.

Any thoughts on restricting users from being able to downvoat at all unless they have reached a specific CCP threshhold? On old voat, it was 100CCP. Also, any thoughts on restricting the regularity with which users with low or negative CCP can post or comment? These two restrictions seemed to do a decent job at helping to prevent spam and downvoat brigading on old voat.

[ - ] system [op] 7 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 14:19:16 ago (+7/-0)

I'll see how 2:1 goes, but I agree 1:1 seems better.

Any thoughts on restricting users from being able to downvoat at all unless they have reached a specific CCP threshhold? On old voat, it was 100CCP.

Yeah I think this is a good idea but I haven't noticed any abuse, that's why I haven't implemented it.

Also, any thoughts on restricting the regularity with which users with low or negative CCP can post or comment?

I'm conflicted on how I feel about this. On one hand it's a great tool, which puts moderation in the hands of users and cleans up the boards, but doesn't completely eliminate the speech of the downvotee, on the other I don't like the idea of people with unpopular opinions being limited. Maybe I can find a way to strike a balance between the 2.

[ - ] sguevar 5 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 17:44:33 ago (+5/-0)

You ve done a great work with the site. Do you know when the format of the comments and post will be implemented (bold, italic, etc)

[ - ] heygeorge 4 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 20:37:36 ago (+4/-0)

System is very hesitant to add CSS or markdown as it is relatively resource intensive to what he has going on right now. Maybe he will let us use some limited <b>markup</b> in the comments at some point.

[ - ] a 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 10:42:17 ago (+0/-0)

You can manually upvote 100 topics pretty fast with ease. This will help, but ultimately won't do a bunch to prevent those who just downvote everything on new.

CSS was abused by the script kiddie SBBH/SDBH to harvest IP addresses on Voat. Resource intensive or not, CSS is a security vulnerability.

[ - ] Napierdalator 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 14:18:20 ago (+1/-0)

Yeah I think this is a good idea but I haven't noticed any abuse, that's why I haven't implemented it.

The shills will come.

[ - ] diggernicks -1 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 17:26:41 ago (+0/-1)

Only turbo nigger communists who need gassing think everyone who disagrees with them is a shill

[ - ] christianmusicreleases 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 01:33:11 ago (+1/-1)

1:1 seems about right.

[ - ] Lin_Ching_Yu 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 18:09:05 ago (+0/-0)

I didn't have an issue with 100 ccp to downvoat on 1.0. It could literally take a few hours achieve.

[ - ] deleted -1 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 17:54:57 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] diggernicks -1 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 17:25:55 ago (+0/-1)

Youre not paying attention

[ - ] dcosta77 8 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 13:26:15 ago (+9/-1)*

What if I'm just a cynical bastard who down votes everything?

[ - ] cyclops1771 13 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 13:27:22 ago (+13/-0)

Sucks to be you, nerd!!!

[ - ] dcosta77 4 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 13:30:37 ago (+4/-0)*

Rude!

[ - ] Darth_Nougat 2 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 13:47:35 ago (+2/-0)

[ - ] sguevar 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 17:40:13 ago (+0/-0)

Rofl

[ - ] account deleted by user 2 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 14:54:44 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] paul_neri 1 point 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 21:23:37 ago (+1/-0)

most ungoat-like behaviour. Voat promotes free speech, not denigrate it!

[ - ] dcosta77 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 09:51:15 ago (+1/-0)

*down voted

[ - ] oldblo 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 17:44:23 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] account deleted by user 2 points 3 yearsApr 2, 2021 03:29:43 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] account deleted by user 7 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 13:29:31 ago (+7/-0)

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[ - ] Darth_Nougat 4 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 13:46:32 ago (+4/-0)

Third try's the charm!

[ - ] SulemanSeinfeld 7 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 13:26:00 ago (+7/-0)

Since you're here, I noticed in one of the 'anon' posts that if the thread is long & continues and one clicks the "continue thread" prompt it shows the users names and not 'anon'.

Not that Im bothered by it but just so you're aware.

[ - ] system [op] 7 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 13:29:08 ago (+7/-0)

Ty. I plan to change the way that whole system works soon. But I'll get that fixed.

[ - ] deleted -1 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 17:28:14 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 17:26:35 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] SulemanSeinfeld 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 20:21:32 ago (+0/-0)

Hey, I wasn't naming names but it was entertaining.

[ - ] Silverfuck 4 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 14:28:31 ago (+4/-0)

I always liked the 1:1 ratio as well. I think it was folks hanging out in the anon subs that would come out of hiding to give a few upvoats so they could continue on with their downvoating crusades. Some of them admitted to it.

I downvoated a total of 1 submission in old voat. I'm sure almost everyone downvoated that one.

On a side note, seems when I upvoat a submission it tallies in my count but when I upvoat a comment it does not. The upvoat goes to the user's comment that's being upvoated but does not show up in my tally. No big deal though.

[ - ] kishind 3 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 21:35:17 ago (+3/-0)

I'd be all for a 1:1 ratio. You should be upvoting more than downvoting anyway.

[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 08:02:43 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] Hey_guys_whats_up 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 20:22:33 ago (+1/-0)

This is an extremely arbitrary statement. Why should I upvote more than I downvote?

@system what if I legitimately just think most of the content posted is low quality? If I voted on every single post and thread based on my opinion, my upvote to downvote ratio would be like 1:8 or something. Why restrict downvotes to encourage upvotes.


This move reminds me of YouTube removing dislikes. Why?


Also, if a user is genuinely downvoting why limit and restrict it? If voting is part of speech then it should have no regulations or control. This is a slippery slope system because first it's all voting, but quickly this becomes "no longer downvoting certain subjects" and certain topics. Will we look like Poal in a year, banning accounts because we don't like how they are voting?

[ - ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior 2 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 05:06:13 ago (+2/-0)

I had to check to see if I was on POAL by mistake.

For fuck's sake, either have a downvote button, or don't.

[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 08:06:22 ago (+2/-1)

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[ - ] Hey_guys_whats_up 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 20:28:23 ago (+0/-0)*

Sorry but no, that very very quickly turns into "I don't like the topics you are voting on."


If a user sees a low quality post they should be able to downvote it.

@system I need you, I really do, I need you to heavily consider this next statement. It should not be up to the administration to decide how a user feels. If I feel that most content is low quality, you should not intervene and say "sorry but the way you feel about this subject is incorrect". You don't dictate how I feel, and I believe a big part of the purpose of the voting system is to be able to express your opinions.

You might not see it that way right now but this is an explicit limitation on a users ability to express their opinion. And if expression of opinion is going to be limited here then we might as well shut down the doors and close up shop because there's no point being here when I can have a controlled discussion on Reddit but reach literally 1000x the audience.


Edit: and for the record, I was glipglup on Voat and my voting ratio was literally around 20:1 I basically never downvote anything unless it's straight up fake news.

[ - ] asdf23 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 17:06:25 ago (+1/-0)

Voat original was that comment up votes unlocked down votes. I thought it was quite high. Something like 100 up comments unlocked the ability to down vote. After that there was some ratio up to down that basically discouraged down votes.

[ - ] RobertJHarsh 0 points 3 yearsApr 2, 2021 17:51:21 ago (+0/-0)

I never downvote or hide posters (unless a pedo or someone advocating violence). That shit is for pussy sites like redtard and twatter.

[ - ] Sick_Puppy 3 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 15:30:15 ago (+3/-0)

BOOO! Stop becoming Poal!

[ - ] kishind 1 point 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 21:42:20 ago (+2/-1)

Spoken like someone who didn't use the old site. I had to earn my right to say whatever whenever. 100ccp, when updoots were scarce.

[ - ] Hey_guys_whats_up 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 21:46:26 ago (+0/-0)

Ok I'm going to make some alts on a VPN and randomly upvote stuff, then use the accounts to brigade you.

I don't see how this change would prevent that.

[ - ] account removed 3 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 15:15:57 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] deleted 3 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 15:13:55 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] albatrosv15 3 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 14:02:35 ago (+4/-1)*

This isn't problem as long as those qtards are not appearing. In older voat days my downvoats were limited, cause i downvoated absolutely all q subs. Then i started upvoating other stuff more so that i could downvoat all the q spam :)

[ - ] account removed 4 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 15:14:27 ago (+4/-0)

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[ - ] albatrosv15 2 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 17:08:06 ago (+2/-0)

I'm not bragging. I'm telling how this is, cupcake.

[ - ] kishind 1 point 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 21:37:30 ago (+1/-0)

Fuck I missed all these bantz.

[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 21:45:42 ago (+0/-0)

Agree. Goat banter is like no other.

nouninformal•British
plural noun: bantz

playfully teasing or mocking remarks exchanged with another person or group; banter.
"it's going to be a top night with plenty of bants" [Voat Library Service]

[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 21:26:38 ago (+0/-0)

hi there sweetie! You haven't kept in touch since the Great Voat Collapse of 2021. Is there a reason for that? I see! Well FU2 !

[ - ] sguevar 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 17:45:24 ago (+0/-0)

Hahaha

[ - ] Gigglestick 2 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 23:54:49 ago (+2/-0)

Faggot

[ - ] account deleted by user 2 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 22:54:40 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] Tallest_Skil 2 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 20:47:13 ago (+2/-0)

1. What does voting do?
2. What happens to posts that get downvoted “too much”?
3. What happens to posts that get upvoted a lot?

If the answer to any of these questions is “nothing”… WHY ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON VOTING IN ANY CAPACITY? WHY DOES IT FUCKING MATTER.

[ - ] system [op] 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 21:05:44 ago (+1/-0)*

Without it, it would basically be limiting the site to /new. Voaters are usually on point with deciding what should make it to the front page. Sure sometimes good stuff gets missed, but crap always gets downvoted and goes nowhere, and that's how it should be. It makes for a better experience. Before this, message boards used 'bumping' as a way to push good/popular content to the front. The voting system is basically that, but in a democratic form.

[ - ] Hey_guys_whats_up 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 21:47:46 ago (+0/-0)

Your viewpoint on voting is a logical fallacy and once on desktop I'll fully explain why.

[ - ] system [op] 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 22:14:21 ago (+1/-0)

Let's hear it. I am open to all suggestions. I just don't see this one actually happening but I will entertain the idea.

[ - ] Hey_guys_whats_up 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 20:30:48 ago (+0/-0)

^This guy gets it^

[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 08:03:50 ago (+1/-0)*

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[ - ] deleted 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 08:12:37 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] AdolfHitler 2 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 14:31:02 ago (+2/-0)*

On Cuqqus they restricted downvotes to 15 per hour. Only leftists that were blaming nazis for it were affected.

[ - ] CamelsMiller 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 00:35:19 ago (+1/-0)

Fuck it, downing this.

[ - ] GrayDragon 0 points 3 yearsApr 2, 2021 01:33:29 ago (+0/-0)

You have banning right? Ban the fuckers that get cause downvoting for stupid reason if detected. No need for some gay ass special algorithm.

[ - ] GrayDragon 0 points 3 yearsApr 2, 2021 01:29:41 ago (+0/-0)

That's retarded. Just upvote faggot things like, "this." This is a stupid band-aid for the problem you are trying to solve.

[ - ] DeadEyeCanNazi 1 point 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 23:25:24 ago (+1/-0)

How do I up or down voat? I'm on mobile only..

[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 22:41:52 ago (+2/-1)*

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[ - ] paul_neri 1 point 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 21:21:58 ago (+1/-0)

It is a source of great personal pride to me that I, a 3 yo goat, has only ever downvoted a fellow goat once (1) and that was when I first joined Voat and was feeling my way. This comment should be upvoted to heaven 'cos that's where I belong.

[ - ] RMGoetbbels 1 point 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 21:04:47 ago (+1/-0)

If I disagree with you or find out your stupid I'll just call you out as the fucking nigger you are. I'm not going to waste the time down voting you without a little satisfaction.

[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 20:24:06 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 08:09:03 ago (+1/-1)

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[ - ] Hey_guys_whats_up 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 20:35:00 ago (+0/-0)

Yes because you are the arbiter of all information. Hey God, can you give me some stock tips for tomorrow?

[ - ] ClaytonBigsby313 1 point 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 19:34:25 ago (+1/-0)

Could you adopt a statistical model for normal upvoating based on non jew users, then use that as a comparison (like exit polling)?

[ - ] Hey_guys_whats_up 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 20:16:27 ago (+0/-0)

@system Why have a system that can be manipulated? Why do we need a voting system at all?

I ask you earnestly, to please explain what benefits voting provides. I feel as though we're only doing it because it was on the old Voat, and literally the only reason it was there was because it was on Reddit.

Other than "because it's popular" what does a voting system actually contribute? Don't you think it's really creepy and weird to ascribe a numerical value to someone's words? How is that even quantified?

[ - ] system [op] 2 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 21:11:09 ago (+2/-0)

Without it, it would basically be limiting the site to /new. Voaters are usually on point with deciding what should make it to the front page. Sure sometimes good stuff gets missed, but crap always gets downvoted and goes nowhere, and that's how it should be. It makes for a better experience. Before this, message boards used 'bumping' as a way to push good/popular content to the front. The voting system is basically that, but in a democratic form.

[ - ] AloisH 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 19:19:35 ago (+0/-0)

@affected

[ - ] oldblo 1 point 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 17:57:47 ago (+1/-0)

I rather dislike this limitation but in general I dislike the entire vote system. I understand it though. Without it shitposters will flood the site to disrupt it.

Perhaps consider a daily quantity of both up and down votes. It would give more weight to a vote. I suppose then you would need to worry about alts being mass produced but thats a concern regardless. You would also need to consider the wants of those who like to upvote lots.

PS: Can we please get a confirm deletion button so that no one who owns a stupid device or has careless touch will delete their comment unintentionally?

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 17:28:14 ago (+0/-0)

The most niggerish crybaby fags ofc support limited posting for anyone unpopular

What a bunch of transparent faggots

Democrats are appalled by your see through lies

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 17:25:17 ago (+0/-0)

INTERNET POINTS DONT MATTER

KILL YOURSELVES/GB2REDDIT

[ - ] beece 1 point 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 13:51:10 ago (+1/-0)

Have to upvoat this.

[ - ] fightknightHERO 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 10:44:19 ago (+1/-1)

fucking April again, this is a shitpost right?

[ - ] Jew 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 05:45:26 ago (+0/-0)*

Please consider not ever implementing that CCP system that used to lock out your whole account if you were new enough where just one fucking obsessive autist could backcomb through your whole history post by post to sabotage you if you commented one single thing that set him off.

The old Voat was an absolute gay bathhouse full of circlejerkers because of that feature. Nobody could ever say one word of anything that went against the grain until your account was ancient.

[ - ] i_hate_sodomites 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2021 08:47:39 ago (+1/-1)

Oooh, this happened to be so many times. One butt-hurt faggot (who I usually called a butt-hurt faggot) would downvoat EVERY comment of mine he could. I think Putt put an end to doing that to any comments that were more than a week old at some point, but some of these kike shills were fucking persistent. It didn't really matter because I had enough CCP it didn't affect me, but it must've been a real bear for the new guys who pissed off a jew or SJW.

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 21:49:27 ago (+1/-1)

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[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 20:23:28 ago (+1/-1)

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[ - ] imjgalt 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 17:02:14 ago (+0/-0)

wonderful. now if I can just stay logged in long enough to actually vote on anything

[ - ] system [op] 1 point 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 17:17:57 ago (+1/-0)

I am curious why some people are having this issue. Obviously you are clicking "Remember me" right?

[ - ] imjgalt 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 17:26:23 ago (+0/-0)

no. it could be my script blockers and very high security settings

[ - ] heygeorge 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 20:46:11 ago (+0/-0)

It could be that you’re not choosing “Remember Me”

[ - ] paul_neri 1 point 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 21:39:04 ago (+1/-0)

it's an interesting thought, well to me at least, that when I die I'll only be remembered by my computer! Which is no big deal because how does being remembered help? You won't know.

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 20:48:17 ago (+0/-0)*

It is physically impossible to click on “remember me” in the desktop version of the site. The words occlude the checkbox thanks to a rendering error, making it impossible to click. I can get you a screenshot if you need.

EDIT: Screenshot. https://i.postimg.cc/ZK7wyQ4R/remember.png

[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 21:51:21 ago (+0/-0)

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1.
stop, close up, or obstruct (an opening, orifice, or passage).
"thick make-up can occlude the pores" [Voat Library Service]

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 21:55:07 ago (+1/-0)

Yeah, I’m a worthless piece of shit who writes like he lives in the 1880s. And I’m proud. Of the second part, not the first.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 16:57:13 ago (+0/-0)

So weird I rarely down vote my ratio is probably 10 to 1

[ - ] heygeorge 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 20:47:28 ago (+0/-0)

10:1 is a good place to be. I’m working on 10:0, I think I will never downvote ever.

[ - ] VitaminSieg -1 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 19:04:23 ago (+0/-1)

Neither up nor down is working for me.

[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 21:33:00 ago (+0/-0)

there are, um, professional people who can help you with your problem.

[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 21:34:54 ago (+0/-0)

try going sideways. A big boy like you would have some width there to get a handle on.

[ - ] chrimony -1 points 3 yearsMar 31, 2021 16:37:15 ago (+1/-2)

Limiting downvotes to something like 5 a day would also be a workable solution. I know the comparisons to Poal will be made, but the problem with Poal is that AOU created a retarded policy around PUNISHING you for downvoting. There is a real problem with some people that will get into a spat and then go downvote that entire person's history.

[ - ] GrayDragon 0 points 3 yearsApr 2, 2021 01:31:18 ago (+0/-0)

And so you trying to sincerely negotiate a real solution get downvoted, haha. This site will fail because of morons.